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Comment by savlove on February 17, 2018 at 12:46pm

By the way, my friend - you'll just have to accept my comments as coming from someone who tried holding a few guns and rifles - because I wanted to know the experience - but could never imagine walking around with or shooting one. To leave the peace in my education up to friends, co-workers or civil servants - because they're the ones who are armed - call me old school, but I don't stomach it, and only feel minutely responsible for where we have come to now over these last decades.

Comment by savlove on February 17, 2018 at 12:22pm

I do not dispute those statistics, and I am more than aware that police may not choose protect citizens for violent crimes as well as those less categorized- and be praised if not overlooked.

I am discussing consciousness. 

By conflating firearms ownership with Zone Acts that refer such protections of violence to the State, the original notion behind protecting the home from intruders is further away from, rather than closer to, a system of trust and conscience. This is Thomas Hobbes "War of all against all" philosophy. That's neither fake nor real, that's just philosophy. The Tao says it's OK because we're all part of the Tao anyway.

Comment by Cian Rhys on February 17, 2018 at 8:58am

The gun-free school zone act is Police State mentality that forces citizens to rely on agents of the State to provide for their security. The moment you need the police, they're always minutes away. Are you aware that Police have no obligation to protect citizens from violent crime? It is, therefore, a fact of law and of practical necessity that individuals are responsible for their own personal safety, and that of their loved ones. Police protection must be recognized for what it is: only an auxiliary general deterrent.

CCW rights have been proven to lower crime rates nationwide, and their can be no denying that armed citizens save lives. In fact, more lives are saved, than are lost, and fewer injuries occur, than are sustained, due to firearms ownership.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425802/gun-free-zones-don%27t...

gunfacts.info

Comment by savlove on February 17, 2018 at 5:42am

Yes, let's track about this. I agree that legislation is not the way to transform violence into harmony. 

But neither are videos by people who believe schools are sitting ducks because they are no-gun zones. That is capitulation to police state mentality without even knowing it. That is beyond pitting chaos against common sense.

I grew up eating up the underground press like candy and as well knowing (wise, methodical) editors for the Washington Post. If the YT generation is going to shuffle the chess board this time around by pitting CNN against a ... Free State (?) - against the truth, against reality, that's diverting the viewer too - away from sensitivity... our education as shaped by fictions on TV as grammar or earth science, so I guess I'm just too busy getting over how lame all 20th century movies appear in the rear-view mirror to ruffle my feathers over popular news cycles. We were warned about all of this - but the way some of these video jockeys talk, even Orwell and Huxley were scheming fascists no better than the historical segment that spawned them! Show some love, gun lovers! Show some compassion!

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