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Death, Dying and Reincarnation

Life is a path; Death a destination.

Reincarnation is the religious or philosophical concept that the soul or spirit, after biological death, begins a new life in a new body that may be human, animal or spiritual depending on the moral quality of the previous life's actions.



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Hail Lady Death: Death Goddesses From Around The World

Started by SunKat yesterday. 0 Replies

Death goddesses seem to be more prominent lately.  Everyone I know worships at least one of them, if not two.  Maybe it’s a…Continue

Experiences With Death

Started by Grigori Rho Gharveyn. Last reply by Grigori Rho Gharveyn Aug 18. 4 Replies

Gharveyn's Experiences With DeathWelcome to some of our experiences with death.Death comes to each person not once in a lifetime, but many times, countless times, but it seems as if few people become aware of this.Each time we have died we have…Continue

Tags: near-death, experiences, nde, afterlife, after-life

What A Near-Death Experience & A Past-Life Regression Can Teach Us About Who We Are & Why We Are Here

Started by SunKat May 21. 0 Replies

“I have some good news and some bad news about reincarnation. The good news is that it happens. The bad news is that it never happens to you.”~ Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche…Continue

What do you want your body to become when it's dead?

Started by anton. Last reply by anton Jan 19. 9 Replies

Hello everyone :)What do you want your dead body to become when it's dead?What do you want your remains to become?Our dead body can appear in different shapes and may even not be retrieved at all.I expect my dead body to be more or less complete.I…Continue

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How Humans Have Embraced Life, With Images of Death

Started by SunKat. Last reply by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland Dec 12, 2017. 1 Reply

Masterpieces of memento mori.BY ANIKA BURGESS DECEMBER 07, 2017…Continue

What's an 'Oversoul' and how different it is from a 'soul group'?

Started by anton. Last reply by anton Jul 10, 2017. 12 Replies

Hello everyone!I've recently come across that concept of 'Oversoul'. A friend (regressionist) in a reincarnation group told me about it. She wasn't sure herself of what 'Oversoul' actually meant but we got the idea it might be a sort of "cluster" of…Continue

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Comment by anton on January 18, 2018 at 2:41pm

I trust Werner Heisenberg regarding mental representations of reality. He was one precursor of quantum mechanics. And I agree with this as well: the map is not the territory.

I see beliefs as transient tools. Forging a great chisel is great but what matters is the experience it leads to, the sculpture.

Comment by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland on January 18, 2018 at 2:32pm

Yes, indeed, Anton.

Beliefs are the creators of our own reality, but no one can convince anyone else to change their belief system.

We do it ourselves through our own experiences.

And we are entitled to do that, and that is why it works for us.

Comment by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland on January 17, 2018 at 6:43pm

Oh, Anton, I am not trying to improve you, far from it, I am only answering some of your questions!

It is not of my business how you perceive the World.

I am only answering what my own perceptions tell me.

This is philosophying, and philosophy has never resolved any problem...

So why we do not leave it at that, and go do something else?

Comment by anton on January 17, 2018 at 2:00pm

You wrote: "They do it all the time, through their bodies."

I just hope those beings do not deny their own body they brush the teeth of.

I believe my multidimensional self "wears" my present body "like a glove". At times, I can feel as though it's my multiself taking control of my fingers that are typewriting now.

My multiself as a part of my essence.

What do I deny, in your opinion?

I'm willing to improve.

Comment by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland on January 17, 2018 at 1:48pm

They do it all the time, through their bodies.

But, just like Artificial Intelligence, the essence created the body to manifest in an outward perceived World.

There are people whose perception go beyond the outwardly senses.

What else can I tell you...

You have your own ideas and your own perceptions.

I have mine and language is a very tricky thing, created just like Artificial Intelligence.

For our own convienence, but not very precise when speaking about more than one dimension.

Comment by anton on January 17, 2018 at 1:31pm

You wrote: "I am talking about the illusion of considering ourselves to be the body."

It's clearer that way indeed.

Some people believe they're just bodies. They believe corpses are (hopefully) what remain of people. When they bury corpses, the say they are John or Mary.

Death = death of the body = death of the person, in their perspective. Not an illusion.

I believe people are an essence partially condensed. If their body dies, they lose their identity as John or Mary. Identity of essence is another story.

I believe people are not only a body.

Then there are people who believe they're discarnate essences.

Can essences typewrite? Can essences brush their teeth?

Comment by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland on January 17, 2018 at 9:48am

I do not amorphosize essence, either.

Essence to me is the real thing.

Morph is just the illusion.

But there are different perspectives, when we approach a mountain we are going to climb, it is very distant, when we climb it where we have been is very distant, but we see more of it, then, and now we know where we have been during the climb. 

When I go within, I find my Real Self, and from that perspective, my appearance has nothing to do with the real me.

Plus I know my multiplicity, then and the essence of my being, which never dies.

Death of a body is a long process, some take longer to dissolve than others, but since I cling to life, I know it has already separated from it, and it dissolves as time goes.

And there is life within a dead body, also, many things form it and within a body there is much life thriving, even a dead one.

But since the purpose of the body has ended, my concern is not there.

I am talking about the illusion of considering ourselves to be the body.

It remains after death or separation from its original intent, therefore, there is no death, either, in the sense of the body, it is decaying, but not death.

Comment by anton on January 17, 2018 at 4:21am

I've asked you about death/illusion because the death of a body is not an illusion for me, so I was curious about your perspective.

I consider beings have a double nature: body and essence.

I could also see the body as a condensed part of an essence.

I tend not to anthropomorphize 'essence'.

Comment by Carmen Elsa Irarragorri Wyland on January 16, 2018 at 3:08pm

Yes, you are right, so why ask me?

I consider the name to be as irrelevant as the body, however they both exist. 

Only temporarily.

We all know that there are things that are not going to last, and is up to us to use them as our point of reference for any purpose we might have in life.

I am trying to integrate all my experiences, past, present or future in this now moment, and these are my temporary conclusions.

Therefore, different points of view and reference, but what is is regardless of errors in perception.

Thus no illusion, right?

Have it any way you want it. 

Comment by anton on January 16, 2018 at 2:55pm

I consider beings are a body allied to an essence.

I consider the body is a 3D-projection (among many) od a multidimensional self.

Imagine a guy name John. As long as he's alive, he's John. But as early as his body dies, he's not John any longer. There's no more "John". The body is a corpse and the essence continues its way.

Well, that's how I see things.

 

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