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Sounds interesting & is new to me. Now what exactly would this involve besides conventional alchemy?

The book suggests copulation with spirits as a means to inner alchemy. 

Honest, Sincere Response....Stay Clear of all that sort of thing. Its just an Outward Deception and will hinder your Real Path of Acheivement.  The Real Alchemy is a process Within your Nervous System that Balances your Sexual Energy and not an actual act in interraction. It is about Overcoming the Outer Lustful experience.  You can return to sexual activity in a healthly loving way after but you will no longer be bound by the Senses.  If you use rituals in process you will get caught in the lower chakras and may not exceed them as our creative energy can be very over powering if used incorrectly.  Your emotions while caught in the lower chakras can be manipulated and influenced and you must be careful.  You want to Master the Path not let it Master you.  If you allow entities into your space you can be in alot of trouble.  Be Very Careful or you will have an exceeding amount you will need to overcome to get out of it.  Best Wishes to You

Thank you.  Just a question, do you think rituals as a whole are not a good idea or only in relation to sex?  And, sorry, don't mean to inundate you, but do you have an opinionn Enochian Angel magick?

As this website has multiple sides of the picture going on alot feel one way and alot another.  The ways I perceive it are very simple because Alchemy back in the day was practiced thru the Bible for Miracles and also in the Darker sides for spells and outer rituals.  Its not that Alchemy itself is bad or good but you have to really have a firm hold on God, for me that's only one option the Christ. 

 

All Alchemy is based on a vibrational composition of matter which is held in the Mind of the Beholder performing such.  Depending what is in you own sub-conscious Mind is the point of things.  That's why I mentioned the importance of the Path itself to be completed which in my methods is about Heart Purification.  If you have not gotten to the bottom of your own psyche then these things become a complicated matter.  So if this helps to know that all Alchemy is Vibration of Matter the rest is your Mind and its status including Fears, Hopes, Desires, etc.  Most start off with a varied amount of demons and weakness in our sub-conscious that we are overcoming in the Life as it is.

 

  If you have not done the Groundwork to overcome these things within before attempting any type of Outer Alchemy you can't really assure the outcome until you know YourSelf thru and thru.  If you first use Alchemy as a method of Inner Purification this problem won't come up and you won't really see the need of invoking Spirits or things like that as that's off the Path and giving another Entity Control and the Invitation to enter your space and Matter.  The real process of Alchemy works by Purification then the Holy Spirit becomes awake and the Guiding force with you if it be God's Grace.

 

In looking over the Enochian Angel Magik it sounds similar but again its not really a magik per say, You have either purified yourself to receive the Holy Spirit or you haven't.  The Holy Spirit is what creates the Miracle thru you that appears as Magik.  It's not the person themselves that actually does it.  Kind of hard to explain that, I'll need work on that a bit.  The other thing is that if your on the Path Itself you are tested the whole way so you can never really be sure what will come at you and must be ready to know how to defeat it so things don't overcome you.  I use the Word for that the Bible Itself.

 

Over the years of investigating and researching the meanings of many things Occult and Biblical I discovered the Biggest thing going on is the Depths or your Own Mind.  It is a balancing act to keep the Mind clear and not let it overcome you so the less playing with things the better.  The Mind is easily corrupted and tainted and one must be so Careful what they allow.  Truth is Written in the Heart of Matter.

I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. Psalm 40:8

 

You just need get to the bottom of it and Life will Become more Magicall than anything one tries to Force.

 

I hope this helps, this would be my personal experience with it and conclusions.

In christianity the Enochian concept is complicated as it recognizes Sophia or Divine Feminine in only certain areas.  What we can understand in the regular life without the Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine we would have no existence as both aspects are in all matter.  As I have understood it in experience you must have the female / mother and male / father aspects of oneself balanced and in Union thru one's own Heart Purification to be alike the Christ as in image of.  It is only then that one experiences The GodHead which is another complex issue with Christianity.  My understanding thru experience is that is all three mother/father/offspring in balance within the psyche of the offspring completing the evolution of the Whole Self or Divine Self (GodHead) then the Holy Spirit comes active in full Within You.  Therein the the Holy Spirit and Sacred Heart of Matter (the person) You again come to the Father (God).  Again, that was my experience with it, although I've never had a minister tell it that way but I lived it.  If your interested the details are on my website, you can find a link on my page. xoxox

 Thank you. I suspected there were some christian fundamentalist aspects lurking underneath your comments. I appreciate the clarification. I've been on an inner journey and have healed a great many things within myself.  My heart is purified.  I taught the bible for many years (11) and have chosen to abandon it's limiting belief system.  But I do respect it as a book of occasional wisdom and a high dose of man's ego.  Thank you so much for sharing. 

Thank you for allowing me to share.  Funny enough we have almost traded places it sounds like.  I studied many occult books for a long time in the years you studied the bible sounds like.  I came to find they offered incomplete answers and returned to the Bible and finally found the way.  I wish you luck on your new adventure. xoxox

PS Its not so much the Bible but how it is taught that's the problem, The Blind leading the Blind so to Speak.  Can't read the book without the right eyes.  There's many Minister's that have interpreted it incorrectly as I see it and they haven't seen the real Truth in the Words.  You may agree with that, as your right there is some overdone male ego in the mix of Preachers out there.  I read it myself so I don't go thru the Church. 

 

How interesting, it was the opposite for me. I had questions about certain hypocrisies I observed in the bible and out right contradictions. It wasn't until I began to read other books that my questions were answered. My questions at church were not welcomed and I was only encouraged to 'have faith' lol... ok

But I totally agree the bible is misinterpreted and the way most religions speak their truth is to keep people in the proper place instead of encouraging true spirituality. The bible does contain a good deal of wisdom. Proverbs and Song of Songs in particular. And the Psalms are just plain beautiful

Meighan

May I recommend you to have a look se at the subject of Van Gogh

He was a minister from like age 17 to 21 and felt he was not helping enough people and and decided to start painting, to reach more people.

As he did get exposed to the higher energy.  And sexual Alchemy might have been the alternate description of this.  I have not read what you cited here,  But I did have the energy saddle me and it almost ripped me to shreds and was the toughest energy to harness

There is also the King Davis story with Bathsheba.  But that energy is here and intended for us to use,  But this energy can put us out of commission and make us obsessive and predatory if we become too egotistical with it.  I consider the energy connection as becoming twin flame capable or connected.

And as far as the bible indicates Love is the greatest commandment and supersedes all other commands!

But the bible was organized and designed for ego based humans to build Love to the highest point possible in humans!

So Sexual Alchemy is about concurring the Lust and Ego driven portion we operate from, and to become heart based creatures, who think from the heart or twin flame connection enabled. 

And it does seem that people who desire the greatest sex ever are in for roller coaster emotions.  As sometimes it just happens as par for the course.  

 

I've always found Van Gogh and intriguing, albeit tragic figure.

I agree a good portion of the new testament is about love and gives it as the greatest commandment. The old testament is about judgment and the law, we do see a bit of the old testament legalism and misogyny creeping back into the new testament through the epistles of Paul/Saul (i.e. Galatians). But it works for some people; many of my friends seem completely content.

For the record, I did not buy the book because I was courting that type of experience. I was actually trying to understand something totally different and this was the only book I could find. I was surprised by some of the information as it was new to me and was hoping to discuss it with someone who was more familiar with the material.

I'm fascinated by your twin flame inferences. That actually speaks more to my experience than did the book.

 

I noticed everyone using this Ego Based referrence and I had to laugh because we are all ego based with the Spirit within us, its just a matter or letting the Spirit overcome the ego self.  Its explained very simply in the Bible to the Fullest Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself  if you recognize the Spirit in all Matter then there is no Love greater than that no matter what book one reads.  Just some food for thought. 

 

Sexual Alchemy based on that book certainly will not overcome Lust, have you looked it up and read the reviews lol, its downright out of the Park, that one.  If someone wants to play about with strange sex methods its all lust, isn't that abvious LOL...You won't overcome any Sexual Lust until you can abstain and reject it and have full mastery over your inner drive and senses.  You can play about with the sexual energy and intensify things but that's not overcoming anything and your liable to just want more getting caught up in it even deeper.

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